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Herding Squirrels Ep 04 w Frédéric Rivain

Building Trust, Intimacy, and Alignment in Technical Teams

Frédéric is the Chief Technology Officer at Dashlane, a leading cybersecurity company specializing in credential management and digital identity solutions. With over two decades of experience in tech leadership, Frédéric drives innovation in security and privacy. A passionate advocate for user-centric security, he brings a unique perspective on blending convenience and robust protection for both individuals and businesses.

Find Frédéric online and at the Dashlane Blog: https://www.dashlane.com/blog

Episode Highlights

[00:03:52] The foundations of great teams: shared mission and unity
[00:06:29] Building consistency and unity in teams intentionally
[00:07:33] The importance of intimacy and vulnerability in team relationships
[00:08:18] The trust equation: credibility, intimacy, and self-awareness
[00:09:14] Dysfunctional teams: the illusion of alignment
[00:11:39] Recognizing when teams are not truly aligned
[00:14:54] Balancing business demands with team development
[00:16:55] Remote work: advantages and challenges for teams
[00:19:28] Finding balance in return-to-office policies
[00:21:36] The evolving role of a CTO through different company stages
[00:23:13] Leadership advice: taking one step at a time on your journey
[00:24:47] The importance of extending your network as you grow in leadership
[00:25:50] Using games and play to foster team learning and connection

Key Insights

  • Unity and Consistency: Frédéric emphasizes that great teams have a shared mission and direction, along with a unity that doesn't mean everyone is the same, but rather a consistency in how people approach work together (00:03:52)

  • Intentional Relationship Building: Being intentional about building team relationships is essential - it doesn't happen by magic. Teams need to spend time getting to know each other both professionally and personally (00:06:29)

  • The Power of Intimacy: Frédéric believes in the importance of intimacy within teams, allowing vulnerability and authentic sharing that creates deeper connections (00:07:33)

  • The Illusion of Alignment: One of the biggest challenges in dysfunctional teams is what Frédéric calls "the illusion of alignment" - where people say yes but don't actually support decisions in practice (00:09:14)

  • Remote Work Balance: While remote work offers flexibility and individual productivity benefits, it creates challenges for building culture, innovation, and maintaining mental health (00:16:55)

  • Leadership as a Journey: Frédéric uses the metaphor of a staircase to describe leadership development - it's a journey with different steps that shouldn't be rushed (00:23:13)

  • Expanding Networks: As you grow in leadership, you need to extend your network further away from your immediate team to continue learning and developing (00:24:47)

Resources Mentioned

  • The Manager's Path by Camille Fournier

  • Dashlane Blog: https://www.dashlane.com/blog

  • Trust Equation (framework mentioned that includes credibility, intimacy, and self-awareness)

Herding Squirrels is a podcast about modern teams, where we uncover the nuts and bolts of effective teamwork.

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